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26th February, 2009 at 22:21:47 -

All it was supposed to do was give you ideas. That's what mock-ups do. And yes, the fonts are different; 28 of 31 books on my bookshelf follow that convention, so there's got to be a reason why they're done that way.

 

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27th February, 2009 at 00:06:24 -

And I appreciate it very much I know they are. I was just saying that both the fonts compliment usually each other and conform with the theme. Look at the harry potter covers, you'll understand what I mean.

 
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27th February, 2009 at 10:58:50 -

Ok Wolf, I've done your cover This is the best you can get from me. I hope you like it

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27th February, 2009 at 20:13:10 -

I got bored and did the whole cover You can use it for free, but please include my name in the inside for the cover design

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27th February, 2009 at 20:58:14 -

Yeah but you dont have to make your cover stand out with colours and textures. And if all you want to say on the back is about two brothers and a quest all you need to write is 'Two brothers...One Quest' or something people cant be bothered to say 'ooh that cover looks simply unique doesnt it?' readers dont want to spend time judging a book by its cover () they want to know in a short sentance what its about and want to get stuck in! When i go to buy a new book i always pick titles that stand out to me, all my books have random covers and i havent even paid attention to the covers in the past, id just stick to simple but work on the art of the letters.

 
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27th February, 2009 at 21:27:12 -

You also spelled it wrong. It's "Heart", not "Hearth." I think it looks nice on the front, but maybe a little lacking on the back. Even a really transparent picture on the back, or a picture of one of the characters would be nice.

 
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27th February, 2009 at 22:20:33 -

Yeah, just noticed the spelling mistake.

I don't think any picture would look good on the back. It would spoil the mood of the cover

 
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27th February, 2009 at 22:47:07 -

Title font doesn't match.

 

  		
  		

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27th February, 2009 at 22:56:00 -

The gradient of the title looks rather amateur. Generic layer effects have that effect.

 

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27th February, 2009 at 23:00:00 -

It's not so much that it looks bad-- it just doesn't match. On another book that gradient would be ok. I've seen it often.

 

  		
  		

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28th February, 2009 at 07:11:01 -

@Adam and OMC:

I can't believe you guys can make such comments. I just didn't make this up in 2 minutes. I have tens of fantasy books that are using the same technique (gradien) for most of the titles and they have a really good title. And the title font really matches the style of his book. If you can criticize that much, at least give a response for what you can do better, instead of giving a reason to why it doesn't look good or it doesn't match...

I'm not gonna do another help to the forum since everyone is a critic and doesn't appreciate hardwork.

@Wolf: If you would like this cover, I can send the .PSD to you and you can do whatever you like.

 
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28th February, 2009 at 08:12:01 -

@ Joellie - Just three words on the back? You sure?

@ Mr. Green - Haha, I'm sure they can come off as harsh but they mean well, I'm sure. Don't let it bother you. Look how much I've been criticized in this topic. It's all good And yes, I actually do like your cover very much. I think it conveys a dark feeling as well as a medieval feeling. The dark feel was absent from my cover. I wanted to ask whether the fonts you used were freeware or not. Otherwise, I cant really use them. But yeah, send me the psd if you can. You can find my email address on my profile. However, I cant make any promises though, I do like it very much so I'm kinda torn between my cover and yours. I'll give you credit for helping me anyway even if I end up not using it Just tell me what name to use or is Mr. Green okay?

I said earlier I've postponed self publishing until my relative gets back to me, so lets see how that goes. If some publisher does decide to pick my book up, then its not very likely that I'll get to do my own coverart. I'll send him both, mine and yours and he can decide. But thats if it happens.

Anyway, to make a long story short, go to my website - www.oldmanstale.net . It has a sample chapter as well as other information regarding the book. Please, everyone do go there and please sign the petition if you like what you see. Heck, sign it even if you dont What petition? Well, go to the site and you'll find out

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28th February, 2009 at 10:28:01 -

Thanks for understanding Wolf

You can find the font here:
http://www.dafont.com/kelmscott.font?nb_ppp=50&text=Old+Man%27s+Tale

It's says "Demo" for the license so I don't know if it's freeware, but you could still ask it's creator for more information or you could also include him in the credits if he agrees

In my opinion you could include the portrays of your characters, inside the book as black and white colored. It would look a lot better. But it's your choice You don't need to give me credit if you don't want to use my cover, but if you do, you can include my name "Gökberk TALU"

I'll send the .PSD to your email right now and also the font file included.

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28th February, 2009 at 15:00:53 -

A-haha! We're not criticizing. You've made just as many suggestions for the other covers. I have read many fantasy books myself and I agreed the gradient looks good on other books. But with the combination you have on this particular cover, it just doesn't quite fit. What do you expect us to do, automatically accept you as a book cover genius and not offer our thoughts on it? "Oh wow, that's awesome. I'm lying, but whatever floats your boat."

We aren't being mean. We're trying to be helpful. If you don't want to help in the future, then we'll all be missing out. But I think you've got a skewed view of how you're supposed to get comments on your work.

Oh, also-- If I ever came across as harsh, I apologize. I meant to make my comments in the best of attitudes and don't pretend to be an expert at all. I'm going by my book-buying instinct here--what would make me want to pick your book up off the shelf and read it. The rest of your cover looks good Mr. Green. There's just something about the font... O_o

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28th February, 2009 at 17:14:34 -

I'm not saying don't criticize, I'm just saying do a constructive criticizim instead. It's easy to say "it doesn't look good" but instead of just saying that you could point out your opinion and what would make it look better. Recently whenever I do something helpful to other people on the board, all they do is say I don't like this or I don't like that. I just want to know the "why" part so I can improve it to be better...

 
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