3. Clickteam need to get their arses into gear and start marketting their products! This is another big reason why there aren't as many Klickers as there should be - NOBODY EVEN KNOWS IT EXISTS!!!
That's quite true. I've never seen MMF in a shop (did see TGF1 in Scotland though, way back in 98 or whatever it was), even on the 3 college and university courses I attended nobody, not even the lecturers had heard of it. One person asked me "is it like GameMaker", and quite a few had heard of the RPG Maker. Never seen it advertised in game magazines either.
I don't know if its different in the States.
Edunt: even at school, a big mofo place that pushed computer stuff a lot and had scores of macs and PC's only 2 people had KnP! And that was when the product was on shelves.
It's even less known in the states, especially evidenced by the (I think O_o) majority of TDC users being from Europe. I've never seen a click product anywhere, and happened on KnP for schools on one of those cheesy old geocities sites by chance.
NOBODY I know has heard of Clickteam's products. (Unless I tell them) My Sim and Game dev class professor wasn't even sure if he'd heard of it.
I bought a book a long time ago that came with a TGF demo, but it wasn't very popular, I think. (Don't know why I wasted $50 on it, I already knew how to use TGF to the level they were teaching in the book.)
It seems that only people who make cheap knock offs see it. With all the other crap (And sometimes not) wanna-be game making tools out there it's getting hard to compete.
3. Clickteam need to get their arses into gear and start marketting their products! This is another big reason why there aren't as many Klickers as there should be - NOBODY EVEN KNOWS IT EXISTS!!!
That's quite true. I've never seen MMF in a shop (did see TGF1 in Scotland though, way back in 98 or whatever it was), even on the 3 college and university courses I attended nobody, not even the lecturers had heard of it. One person asked me "is it like GameMaker", and quite a few had heard of the RPG Maker. Never seen it advertised in game magazines either.
I don't know if its different in the States.
Edunt: even at school, a big mofo place that pushed computer stuff a lot and had scores of macs and PC's only 2 people had KnP! And that was when the product was on shelves.
The only promotion it ever really got over on this end was when Maxis had KnP. I think it was just a flyer they included in games. I think mine came with SimCity 2000. It was back when the box sizes for games were reasonable, not the huge bloated messes they became.
Just a flyer, never actually saw it on shelves and I had no clue what TGF was until I looked up KnP at random online. I had to order the EU pressing of TGF. I think corel also had an ad for it buried in their software under the help menu (Click & Create and god awful expensive.)
Originally Posted by Rickgy I bet most of us found out about click team by the demos included in Maxis Games.
KNP was being given away (or was ultra cheap) with some old PC mag I got in 96, maybe 97. And AMOS was in Amiga Format I think a couple of years before that.
When I bought my copy of The games factory it was in GAME on that cheap budget label 'Explosiv'.
I doubt they got an awful lot of spontaneous buys from that even though it was in GAME (a pretty big store)also British home stores and Toy's R us. a £10 Explosiv purchase isn't something that screams quality. So even in that case you would have to already know what The Games factory was before you would buy it.
Funny how little gems can be found where you wouldn't expect. The publishing history of (what are now) Clickteam's products is very interesting for sure. If it weren't for the fact that being stuck under a industry giant comes with all kinds of poos, I bet Clickteam could easily get a big-name company to publish MMF2. The community would explode! Which could be a good and bad thing...
"I bet Clickteam could easily get a big-name company to publish MMF2. The community would explode! Which could be a good and bad thing...
These sort of things are fun to think about. "
*Sigh* And so much harder to get. It would indeed be quite nice if Clickteam got a contract with some big name company to sell their products, but that's a mere dream as of late.
Originally Posted by steve Just my thoughts but maybe stop allowing the joke or "mocking" games that crop up so often on this site - they make TDC itself a joke, along with the software used to create the games.
I don't think that's a problem really, and I doubt a bit of humour or messing about on the site is going to turn people away, unless they're particularly stuffy. More what you're displaying is a symptom of taking it a bit seriously, perhaps because you're invested in this place, perhaps not. Which is fine! I just don't think most newcomers would be turned off by some throwaway software being amongst the good stuff, which is what tends to be displayed on the front page anyway.
I'd hazard a guess that it's the cliquey nature (unavoidable in every online community EVER, and a sign of relationships and other good things), and the infighting (which there's not much excuse for) that demotivates people to get involved.
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With all the other crap (And sometimes not) wanna-be game making tools out there it's getting hard to compete.
The publishing history of (what are now) Clickteam's products is very interesting for sure. If it weren't for the fact that being stuck under a industry giant comes with all kinds of poos, I bet Clickteam could easily get a big-name company to publish MMF2. The community would explode! 
