1. Adam (or EE) sees a 0 star-rating.
2. Above person makes another thread to complain.
3. People gets annoyed, and make 0 star rating to annoy him back.
- Ok, you must admit that was the most creative cussing this site have ever seen -
the admins do not aprove the practise of down-voting, however if some folks decide to do this at the moment there is not much we can do to reverse that until we update this feature. That being said 1 or 2 down-votes will not make that much of a difference but i do agree why do it?
Cecil: I just think people are acting way to seriously on certain things recently, we are all here to make games, talk about them and "help" eachother, not to fight over eachother. Admins know whats going on. If we are not talking about it in public does not mean things are not being done.
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I have an idea on how to fix this without having to start all over with a new rating system. Make the star-ratings accumulate instead of average out. In other words, have each download page add up the stars from each rating. That way you wouldn't have to start over with a new system, and at the same time zero-star ratings would vanish. It might not be a perfect system, but it would take power away from people like Phizzy who are just out to cause trouble.
You're right that five people could all vote 5 stars, and it would dominate games that were downloaded by 200 people that gave it 3-5 star ratings. But rating a game 0-stars isn't a good fix, because your rating manipulation is the more obvious and hurtful one. Even if the games rating was unfairly high, it's not the authors fault.
But the problem you mentioned would be fixed by an accumulative system that would add up degrees of recommendation instead of averaging them. If they were accumulative, then the game downloaded 200 times with lots of 3's and 4's would easily outrank the one rated only five times with five stars each.
Originally Posted by Phizzy But then everyone's profiles would become huge lists of games they like a little bit, instead of a selection of games that are actually the member's favourites.
It's limited to 5.
Originally Posted by Phizzy I see nothing wrong with a system where there's just a button to recommend a game, with no 'HOW DARE YOU RECOMMEND THIS TO ME?!' button. But they basically only just implemented this sytem, why should the site change constantly? It seems some of you just want to force the site to change a lot just so you don't get bored.
The fundamental problem with the Recommendation button (and the system suggested by Shroomlock) is that older games accumulate more rating simply because of the time they've been sitting on the site, and the new games never catch up.
Originally Posted by Rikus Ps. The admins have already been discussing how to improve the rating system, but it really is not that big of a deal most of the times when most people vote normally, it should even out even with 1 or 2 bad votes.
It kind of is a big deal when it's your game that's being rated down. Any chance they're going to be removed?
The debate about the rating system shouldn't be about what any game deserves, it should be about making sure that one person doesn't have the power to determine that all by themselves. Phizzy, whether you're right or wrong doesn't matter, you shouldn't have the power to reorganize the top-ten downloads list all by yourself. That's not your fault, you were given the power to do that. But it's something that needs to be fixed. No single person should have the ability to reorganize the top ten downloads list just because they disagree with it.
3. People gets annoyed, and make 0 star rating to annoy him back.
Why?
Second that.
The difference between posting a thread about down-rating and actually down-rating is that neither me, nor Adam, nor anyone else would have to start a thread about it if it wasn't for people like yourself being abusive towards others to start with.
Now that that's cleared up.
Rikus:
If the admins are actually doing something about the rating system then that's very welcome! Though maybe it would've been even better if people would've known that already...
I agree totally with what Shroomlock said. If there's anything we can all agree on here it's that the rating system is borked and needs fixed by a lolcat with a screwdriver.
It would be nice if the ratings for falafel were rolled back to the 8th November to remove the counter-active 5/5 ratings also. Anyway, it's just a game on a website at the end of the day.
Originally Posted by Phredreeke Just discard the lowest and highest 2 or 3 votes and calculate the average of the rest. That would make the ratings relatively tamperproof.
Wait, didn't you just kick the shit out of my game because you wanted to jump on the Phizzy bandwagon? I have some respect for Phizzy but not for actions like that. Sorry.
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