I usually tend to ignore these things and vote for the better candidate, but lord knows the republicans over here lost all chances with me after the RNC in my city; I was one of the peaceful protesters out in front of the capitol building, getting tear gassed by the admirable Mr. Riot Gear and his cronies. Politics are awful enough, but when it gets to the point where theres government snipers on top of your rooftops and questionably homoerotic man-chains of riot police blocking off the roads, its going too far. I don't know any Minnesotans who took kindly to having a bunch of out of state police tussle with us, just to appease some out of state republican drunkards. Not that the old fart ever had a chance here this year anyway.
rofl this is what McCain said about Obama in an interview for cnn I just read:
"It's not that I give a damn about some old washed-up terrorist and his terrorist wife, who in 2001 said they wish they'd bombed more."
I'm just speechless, how did he managed to win the primaries ?
His campaign strategy is mostly about making everybody think he's running against saddam hussein, which can only mean one of these things:
He's either stupid, or he thinks the american people is stupid.
We'll see the answer in 20 days, I just hope I don't get surprised.
Originally Posted by Wiiman Well uh... People are falling for Obama because he's charismatic, in the same way that Hitler was charismatic. We really know nothing about the guy, besides he used to have a drug addiction and resides in Chicago. Sure McCain is like Bush, but Bush was only a bad WAR TIME president. He would have been great for peace time. The war is almost over so McCain should be fine. Plus he has lots of heart trouble and such, so Palin is most likely going to end up president if McCain is elected, besides the fact it would be cool to have an attractive president, I support Palin because she has not been in jerk off washington very much. So Palin will support the small guy more than anyone I beleive.
We only know that McCain is an old fart with incredible anger issues, who consistantly voted for Bush acts in the Senate and lies in debate. Bush was an awful PEACE TIME president too. Aside from the favoring of the wealthy and unconstitutional intrusion of privacy, he started the war itself on false terms. Arguing that he would've been a good president is, I hope you don't mind me reusing this, like saying that Hitler would have been a good leader if only given a little more time.
If you want a president that will support the small guy, why would you be against Obama? His policies emphasize the middle class, in fact strengthening the middle class is his primary goal as president. If you want a president who hasn't been a jerk off in washington, why don't you vote for me?
If you do not know the candidates plans for America by now then you have not been paying attention to either one of their campaigns.
Democracy runs best with a small government. You want the people to run almost everything themselves and the government to watch over it. At this point the government is big, and has taken it upon themselves to bail out major companies who have broken the law, while in the process breaking some laws to do so. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, were originally created by Clinton. The government was not regulating the market and allowed these frauds to happen. Then they bail them out by using hard earn tax payers money. Leaving us to worry with problems of inflation.
Now think about this, why do we not see anyone facing trial and being held accountable? Hmm
What SHOULD have been done was the government loan these companies money with high interest rates instead of just giving them the money. That way they would save the companies as well as gain a profit in doing so. Another problem is wasteful spending. The country is in debt and the government is not helping this matter.
Some people would have you believe that it's the Bush administrations fault for everything when he actually warned us that this would happen in 2003. In fact this all began when the Democrats gained over the House. In my opinion, if Bush was not unpopular this election would not even be close.
Well, I guess you could say Obama supports the small guy in some ways. But in different ways. He wants to be puttig extra largetaxes on supposebly 'rich people', personally I have nothing to much wrong with taxing Bill Gates for a lot of money, but it's not just them type of people. The tax is based on Gross income if it's over $250,00, not the total income(after paying everything off and such). So it can actually effect local and small businesses. Say this guy owns a plumbing business, he has a lot of employees and gets a humongous gross income. But then by the time he pays wages for all of his employees, he only gets $40,000 left for himself. Just because he has a large gross income doesn't mean he has a large income. Or let's say a farmer, does good on crops and cattle one year, gets a huge gross amount of money, but he still has to pay for the fertilizer and hay and diesel, and there's barely any money left. He gets payed as much as a normal person in the end, so why should he get taxed for extra money?
I'd for a chimp in a business suit if it had a surefire plan to fix the economy right now. And frankly its the entire republican executive that got us all into this on a global scale, and the last people to get us into a period of growth were the democrats. People vest too much into the figureheads, they need to remember that they are electing an entire machine. Even if McCain was FDR reincarnate, his buddies and advisors would have us setting up McCainville and riding the rails and standing in lines for soup, and given our economic centricy that wouldn't be restricted to just the USA.
course things might already be bad enough down the drain that a year from now I'll be living in an Obamatown, but at least it would get better after it got worse
"And I hope it stays that way. I mean isn't the McCain camp all for book burning and crappy foreign policy, and basically boiling it down to another 4 years of Bush-like madness? See we don't get half the news relating to the US elections but from what I've gathered Obama is pretty much a way forward for the US and McCain is what you have now. Any US folk care to clarify?"
Now as you can see this is a prime example of pure deception.
"he's winning by 6% in the polls so not really. Sarah Palin is an idiot and had her email account "hacked" because her secret question was what highschool she went to."
Yeah, Palin's the idiot. Not the guy who hacked her email to find dirt on her, by the way he never did, and will face time behind bars.
"in the final, every president turn out to be an idiot. all of them are doing so...even Bush. "
George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan...
Must I go on?
"It's not that I give a damn about some old washed-up terrorist and his terrorist wife, who in 2001 said they wish they'd bombed more."
That remark was about Bill Ayers, a man who participated in a series of bombings. This is a perfect example of taking something out of context.
"We only know that McCain is an old fart with incredible anger issues."
I'm sorry but this remark is on the same level as saying Obama is black. It is completely irrelevant and I would hope as a society we could move on from this type of thinking.
Wiiman, I completely agree with everything you said. That is exactly why I do not back Obama's tax plans. We have a 35% tax rate on companies, the second highest in the world, 50% of those companies are small businesses. John McCain wants to lower those taxes and create more jobs. Obama's plan is to distribute the wealth. The problem is that your taking away someone's hard earned money and giving it to someone who does less work. Your giving your money away for Obama to decide how to use it. McCain wants you to decide that. I said it before, democracy runs best with a small government. Obama's plan revolves around a big government that decides on where your money goes to even who you have health care with. Now what does that sound like to you? hmmm
"If you want a president that will support the small guy, why would you be against Obama? His policies emphasize the middle class,"
You are right, his policies do emphasize the middle class. His plan is to raise taxes on small companies who are run by the middle class during an economic crisis.
"the last people to get us into a period of growth were the democrats."
Guess who was over Congress while Clinton was President? Republicans!
These last two years the Democrats have not done a damn thing to solve the problems we're facing. Why do you think that is? Because they wanted matters to get worse. They know that most people are not intelligent enough to recognize them as the source of the situation, which gives them a better standing of winning the next election. So then it's no longer about you and me, but rather them gaining more power.
These last two years the Democrats have not done a damn thing to solve the problems we're facing. Why do you think that is? Because they wanted matters to get worse. They know that most people are not intelligent enough to recognize them as the source of the situation, which gives them a better standing of winning the next election. So then it's no longer about you and me, but rather them gaining more power.
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How do you know that ? if it worked like that why would the republicans help Clinton ? For the sake of the country?
Wake up dude, the republicans aren't the justice league.
These last two years the Democrats have not done a damn thing to solve the problems we're facing. Why do you think that is? Because they wanted matters to get worse. They know that most people are not intelligent enough to recognize them as the source of the situation, which gives them a better standing of winning the next election. So then it's no longer about you and me, but rather them gaining more power.
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How do you know that ? if it worked like that why would the republicans help Clinton ? For the sake of the country?
Wake up dude, the republicans aren't the justice league.
It's true, a couple of years ago, the conservatives in congress foresaw what was going to happen to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and demanded tighter regulation. The liberals refused to let them do any thing.
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We really know nothing about the guy, besides he used to have a drug addiction and resides in Chicago. Sure McCain is like Bush, but Bush was only a bad WAR TIME president. He would have been great for peace time. The war is almost over so McCain should be fine. Plus he has lots of heart trouble and such, so Palin is most likely going to end up president if McCain is elected, besides the fact it would be cool to have an attractive president, I support Palin because she has not been in jerk off washington very much. So Palin will support the small guy more than anyone I beleive.
