Originally Posted by -Adam- Nephew. And yes I thought it was cute, rather than funny, and no, the majority didn't even know that child was related to Noodle, and no, the majority of this site probably wouldn't even care. You can tell me it's the principle but I found that picture hardly offensive. Perhaps if it was an adult dressed as a cute little elf, or made to look like a drag queen, but come on, this really is petty.
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I agree. Wasn't until now that I went and looked for the pictures, then got a chuckle out of it. So I'm sorry to say Noddle, but I think you accidentally made a fool of yourself, by telling everyone they were related to you. No one knew or even cared.
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I disagree with that. Since allowing stuff like that is like saying it's okay to bully someone as long as nobody else knows about it. I would certainly not find it funny if someone had my sister in their avatar/signature even though others wouldn't know who it was. That's reason enough for me to not allow stuff like that.
Though this whole ordeal maybe could be handled a bit more privately. More and more people get involved in these threads and that seems to lead to more drama.
It's not funny to take family pictures of people on the internet and post them all over the place in an offensive manner, no. You're not making matters at all any better though, by going out and bitching to the world that it's happening, because where's it's offensive to you now... take that and multiply it by 50, once you just told everyone who the people in the pictures are. Because NOW people aren't just pointing and laughing, they're pointing, laughing, and snickering at you because they know who the pictures are related to.
I wonder what kind of a person puts pictures of themself and their family in the public domain when they clearly have a problem with people abusing those pictures. Just goes to show how careless we are these days. Perhaps the dude who stole your credit card will look up some personal details on facebook, or maybe the script kiddie with no life outside his bedroom will fall in love with pictures of your sister. The world is full of freaks. Freaks are usually the interesting people, but they don't all share the same morals. Sure you can be pissed off some dude outright insulted you, but you can only blame yourself for giving them the tools to do so.
Well, just about anyone can find pictures of me and my family on facebook, and I think thats the standard in terms of internet privacy these days. No one to blame but the ones abusing others' privacy.
Originally Posted by I'm not Adam Oh, I forgot to mention. Only YOUR IP saw that Image!
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Erm... Am I allowed to say that I've actually seen that as LIJI's avatar before :\ and I never knew who the hell it was - hence me remembering, being confused.
Anyways, I don't think it is petty. I think there's more reasons than what was happened here for Matt to leave this community too - pick one out of the hat really dude! I'd want to leave if it was done to me... Try to think of this from Matt's point of view and put yourself in his shoes :\ I'd do the same!
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A. You're confusing with my MSN display picture.
B. I'll repeat a previous post of mine to make it clear:
I've put his sister in my private avatar only because he put my face in his public avatar.
After he removed his avatar he asked me to removed mine and so I did.
I find it quite fair, especially when the only one who saw my avatar was him though everyone saw his avatar.
The standard is retarded and people don't think. You shouldn't make your profiles public if you only want to share with your friends. "No one to blame but the ones abusing others' privacy." You submit pictures that are available to EVERYONE with internet access and you expect them all to be nice people. How fucking naïve. If you put your details in the public domain, anyone is free to mess with it, that's why displaying pictures of your nephew in places where everyone can find it is a BAD idea. Assuming no blame is stupid. Be more careful. If you have no problems with anyone having such information, fine go ahead.
What I fail to understand is why you are making this public.
I don't want to read about people's issues about other people, that should be dealt with privately.
What I fail to understand is why you are making this public.
I don't want to read about people's issues about other people, that should be dealt with privately.
he didn't make it public, the guys who POSTED PICTURES OF HIS FAMILY TO EVERYONE ON THE SITE did.
Matt, this isn't 4chan. We don't all stay completely anonymous. Its like saying that because we have windows in our houses, its ok for peeping toms and creepers to stand outside wanking in our bushes. This forum has some unwritten expectations of privacy inherent to most of the internet- you don't go posting other peoples phone numbers and drivers licenses online, do you? Liji, Adam, Predreeke all seriously breached that line. Its a huge step from flaming and harassing someone to going after their family. You don't do that stuff, and all of those people know better then to do it in the first place. Those 3 knew exactly what they were doing and how out of line it was.
i dont know what the hell motivates them to do something like that
"Its like saying that because we have windows in our houses, its ok for peeping toms and creepers to stand outside wanking in our bushes." You convolute the point, and I don't let people look through my windows. You can't really do anything about that can you. By putting such things on the internet you are providing opportunity that can otherwise be avoided. You can't really avoid windows in your house. They breached the line yes, and to which degree is not my concern, but they were given the opportunity to do so. It was hardly some mastermind plan, no more than a google is my guess. To hell with unwritten expectations, you have your own expectations as do I, but I see no reason why anyone should follow them. General expectations are there to let you know what to expect of people, they provide no guarantee. Don't think I am justifying the actions though, just saying you shouldn't give people the equipment to attack you.
I really don't think this community is falling apart, I think a lot of you are just realizing now what has always been. I like it here though, a few funny people post ever so often, the occasional flame war that gets way out of control. The not to controlling but not to lenient admins. Hell this place is one of the few places on the internet that is actually kind of like the shows "cheers".
Except one of the bitch girls from cheers got banned from the bar and everyone is now realizing all the mean stuff that people has said behind your backs and that the bartender might have spit in your beer once before. Eventually it'll all smooth out, Noodle will come back, Phizzy will make another new account and games will continue to be made.
thinking is like pong, it's easy, but you miss sometimes.
Matt Esch's got a point there. But you know, there's a certain difference between the random, anonymous internet creep posting pictures of your family, and a couple of more or less respectable long-term TDC members doing it. Perhaps he gave them the means to do so, but we're a community, we're not supposed to try and stir shit up just because we find the opportunity to do so. I know I'm no angel either when it comes to that point, but it's my view of it anyway.
Like Shab said above, there is nothing we can do about MSN display pictures or avatars in the past. There is simply one incident which we are going to discuss and make a decision on. From my point of view, using images of a person without permission isn't right. In fact, I'm pretty sure that there are certain laws and such on this kind of thing. So whether you guys think it was stupid of him to give out photos of relatives or not, the fact is somebody used these images and altered/animated them without their permission. Even if Noodle gave them permission, it would still be wrong to use them unless you had permission from that person in the image. That's my opinion - I'm not sure what the laws state and such, but I'm pretty sure it files under something like harassment or something (don't quote me on that, I don't study law..)
Now I really don't want to lock this topic as I think a lot of you have given valid opinions - but some of you have posted pointless spam as well. Keep it clean and use this thread to say your goodbyes to Noodle.
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