You may not find the comments offensive, others do
Right. While I personally believe if you don't like something you're free to f off somewhere else, I'm not running the site. Offesiveness is completely subjective, which is why rules need to be codified and actually adhered to by the moderatorship.
We try not to censor people here - you know that, you can't say otherwise.
Bullshit. Rikus and (it seems) yourself are pretty trigger-happy when it comes to deleting whole conversations outright. That's about two steps under assassination on the scale of censorship.
So to say we're over-moderating isn't true at all, in my opinion.
Conduct is far more important. Like for example right now you're implementing a patently unnecessary warning system.
People who constantly call other's names - such as cunts, paedos or insult others about their weight and things - deserved to be censored. Not just on this website, but on any website.
I find this comment pretty reprehensible, but I think you're trying to talk about severely disruprive behaviour, and on that I agree. But does TDC really have a problem with this sort of thing? If it does I'm entirely unaware of it, so clearly it's being dealt with appropriately on an ad-hoc basis if it does exist.
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Wait, if you're talking about phizzy, you're hugely exaggerating. In fact under this warning system he's be invulnerable from banning since he's helpful more often than he is silly.
Also, the warning buttons are kind of obtrusive and vertically stretch out posts even more, so why not have it display on profiles instead?
Bullshit. Rikus and (it seems) yourself are pretty trigger-happy when it comes to deleting whole conversations outright. That's about two steps under assassination on the scale of censorship.
You can talk to me about this on MSN - the only time I've ever deleted comments was on the front page when everybody seemed to be targetting a single person. If you honestly expect me to let several members insult and abuse one person - then you are certainly wrong. And you think that is over-moderation??
I find this comment pretty reprehensible, but I think you're trying to talk about severely disruprive behaviour, and on that I agree. But does TDC really have a problem with this sort of thing? If it does I'm entirely unaware of it, so clearly it's being dealt with appropriately on an ad-hoc basis if it does exist.
Phizzy has been doing it for the last few years - he's probably the only person who's been doing it though, fair enough.
You can talk to me about this on MSN - the only time I've ever deleted comments was on the front page when everybody seemed to be targetting a single person.
Obviously it's impossible to tell who's actually doing it.
If you honestly expect me to let several members insult and abuse one person - then you are certainly wrong.
Why? What does deleting the conversation after the fact achieve?
And you think that is over-moderation??
As I said, conduct is as important. Acting like the site is under assault is equivalent to it actually being under assault. Deleting dozens of unique user posts at a time (regardless of who's doing it) is a pretty big deal. I have no idea why it's so common here.
I agree on that, actually. I guess swearing occasionally is... tolerable at best. But frequently doing so is perhaps treading on the toes of an admin a little too hard.
Some people clearly don't like the idea of this system, some do. I think all the admins definitely approve of it in order to run a tight ship, many non-admins who like peace and harmony would probably agree too.
The trouble is, over the years we've let TDC and its rules be incredibly relaxed for a community site, which is why there have always been big arguments here in the past between certain members. Is it the taste of 100% freedom that you're about to lose bothering you, or is it just the fact that you don't like change? Either way, you're going to have to get used to it.
I type almost the way I speak, which is why my posts are always littered with parentheses. Swearing is a part of this voice. Don't like it? Man up.
Spoiler, Circy: I post on incredibly strict sites too, and flaming is no less frequent. People don't change just because you censor them (hah, last time I said that my post was deleted).
I type the way I speak too (apart from obvious smileys and lols, etc) but I just don't feel the need to swear all the time. These new features aren't designed to change a person but are really here to try and keep peace and civility. I accept that swearing can be part of a personality. But when a person has a personality that swears to serious excess, with every other word being a word of profanity, you do have to question their purpose in the community - are they genuinely doing it because they're foul-mouthed in real life, or are they trying to start something controversial?
I'm not saying you're a person who's overly excessive Radix, but I think those are the grounds an admin needs to go on to add a point to the warning system.
Hi guys. So, my most RECENT ban, this was done immediately prior to this system being put in place, so that you wouldn't have to put up with me for three warnings. Am I right? See, because I don't personally believe a single retalliatory "fuck you" is worth a ban. I don't think it's worth a warning, honestly. Especially when the post was an overreaction due to personal issues and I asked an admin to remove it five minutes later. So I'd like to be reinstated with one warning, please.
I really can't understand why you admins feel the need to add this feature. Are you guys bored or something.
Believe it or not i actually got sent a message warning me to calm down a few weeks ago. After posting a single line of text that was quite clearly supposed to be taken as a joke. (and if it was serious it would be taken as an opinion anyway)
This in my opinion is an example of over zealousness. And i do not like it.
We do not need a zero tolerance policy here thank you very much.
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