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8th July, 2006 at 11:29:19 -

i can tell you this much - dragon quest for the ps2 is a very enjoyable game - the graphics are only there to enhance the game, not the focus of it. the main story, though very simple, has many exciting details. the gameplay, old school turn-based, brings on some nostalgia for the older generation yet is very simple, fun, yet challenging for the newer generation as well. one can only realize why this game got such a great rating.

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radix is right as well, there is no comparison between 2d vs 3d, anyone who opposes 3d must oppose the world they live in becasue it most definitely is a 3d world of some sort (there's 4d with time and the such and can go as high as 8d as einstein theorizes but i'm not going to go into that). the argument of 2d and 3d is mostly relative and not absolute and being so it's all a matter of tastes, waht you're accustomed to, etc.

 
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8th July, 2006 at 11:57:08 -

Good point, I forgot about Dragon Quest 8.

I wrote a review on it for GameFaqs because I liked it so much. They pulled off a great old-schooly game wrapped in a modern blanket (or something like that). It is leaps and bounds beyond Dragon Warrior 7 (A 2d game no less!) IMO. Go figure.

 
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8th July, 2006 at 19:16:53 -

"Young gamers all have A.D.D, Period."

Greasy, go screw yourself. I love old 2D games, hate [almost all] new 3D games [I only own a NES, SNES, and an arcade machine], and I don't have A.D.D.

 
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8th July, 2006 at 23:56:25 -

I don't think it's any better to hate 3D games for no reason any more than it's right to hate 2D games for no reason. The lack of great games these days(which is questionable since there are plenty of great games coming out) can probably be more attributed to the hollywood style changes the gaming industry is going through, and not just the fact that they're 3D. People also rate graphics of 3D games with a much more critical eye than they do 2D. 2D isn't real in any way and it can never look real, while 3D games are expected to have realistic textures, human looking models, etc.

As for a users comments on deformation, the Jak and Daxter games really played with proportions and stuff, and those are some of the best looking games on ps2. Another game(which I haven't played but have seen videos of) is God of War, it doesn't seem to use and deformation on characters or anything, but the movements are very exaggerated, and it just has more life than a lot of games.

 
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9th July, 2006 at 00:07:34 -

That's what I said. It's not the 3d that makes the game bad, it's the way they try to make it so real that it becomes completely boring. Though there is the certain games that ARE 3d but aren't made to be realistic, and they become fun.

 
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9th July, 2006 at 00:23:38 -

Realism isn’t the cause of a boring game. It's when realism is the main focus of the game, and the only method to attract players, and things such as game play, or anything else the pertains to the game, are forgotten or ignored, that the game becomes very boring &/or stupid. Take Prey for example, this is an example of a game that focuses much on graphics, however more focus was placed on making the game original, by adding very disturbing things such as walking on walls, wormholes or portals, and leaving your own body to get around puzzles. However a great majority of games released, don't put this much work into the rest of the game, and that is why people with more then half a brain, find the game boring and not fun at all.

In your idea, you are saying that any game that was not made to be realistic, is more fun. This could be true, but to a limited extent. That extent being that, often when games aren’t focused more on graphics, the designers often don’t have anything to focus on other then the actual game itself. However, when you find game designers who are in it for the shear money, you find game designers who don’t put focus to neither the game or the graphics. Both need to be taken advantage of, it just happens to be that games with a less realistic touch, have grown a style that is more enjoyable, thus people are starting to assume that we can completely disconnect the idea of making realistic games, and everyone would be happy. Even though this is not the case.

 
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9th July, 2006 at 01:31:17 -

k

 
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9th July, 2006 at 02:37:48 -

I'm sure this post is just as pointless as yours, Greasy, but I'm making it anyway...

What was the point of that post, Greasy? Somehow though, the S.U.M.G.O. logo in your name makes me want to pass your post as no shock.

 
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9th July, 2006 at 03:33:22 -

I was agreeing, ok , topic finished?

 
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9th July, 2006 at 14:24:41 -

You didn't start the topic, and trying to get the last post in a topic you want to declare dead, by saying 'k' is not the way to do it.

 
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9th July, 2006 at 15:04:01 -

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10th July, 2006 at 23:40:32 -

"you can't have realism in 2 demensions"

This is bullshit. I've seen plenty of realistic 2D games. Ever play the Police Quest series (or Blue Force)? There was also another game I once played that had some pretty impressive physics for a 2D side scroller but I forgot the name of it.

 
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