Besides, us mormons think that the bible was translated so many times that it has corrupted parts that we need to skip over, or something.
Well, the KJB translation that a lot of western xtianity is based on is really badly done. So in that sense there's a lot of random invalid stuff floating around (unicorns are a famous example).
Still, isn't that an odd position for mormonism? A religion that's based on supposed translations from golden plates that nobody's ever seen, and that have had the details subtly changed at least a dozen times when holes emerge?
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19th December, 2005 at 16:51:50 -
I havn't heard that the details were changed at all in the translation, but yes, it is rather strange that we base our religion of of something no one's seen. That's when we're supposed to let faith kick in, and then we have a working religion. That's all I can go off of right now, the teachers don't expect that the kids they teach are going into some debate or anything. They give us enough information so we can comprehend the stories in the books, not nessessarily why they are true. They teach that when you're in highschool though. Give me two years and I'll be there.
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
Well, see what happens is every time something comes up that contradicts the original mormon texts, they're quietly 'corrected' by the church. Which goes entirely against the whole point of the divine translation scam.
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19th December, 2005 at 17:47:03 -
Well, what has been quietly 'corrected'?
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
This topic is insane. It goes from a hillbilly snowman shooting rampage to an insane redneck conversation, and now (as Peblo predicted) it is a debate about religion!
Okay, no offense to Peblo, but this is my opinion about Mormonism:
Pros
-The families on the whole are happy (except for that one crazy Mormon guy who lived in a trailer. He forced his children, family, and wife to inbreed, and then he killed them all and had a shoot out with police from his Mobil home) <--and yes, that's a true story.
Cons:
Joseph Smith was either a genius, an idiot, or a prophet. If he was a genius, it's because he
A) Screwed a bunch of people into believing that he had talked to an angel who told him that Jesus came to North America where a bunch of evil white people lived, and that he turned their skin red because he was angry at them.
B)Screwed a bunch of people into believing he had two golden plates that to this day no one other then Smith himself has seen
C)That the stones changed several times because God was angry at them, even though the real reason was because he either forgot what he had said or that he had changed them to fit what he wanted at that time.
He was an idiot because he:
A)Believed that he had talked to an angel who told him that Jesus came to North America where a bunch of evil white people lived and that he turned their skin red because he was angry at them.
B) translated two amazing gold plates that were from God himself.
And if he was a prophet, which I highly doubt, then I'm screwed because I don't believe a word of his story.
Again, I'm just giving you my opinion, Peblo. I respect you and your faith, and I hope I didn’t alienate you.
My views on Baptists:
They're Fking nuts. Anybody can found a Baptist church and call themselves ministers. They’re like Evangelists. All that ‘Shout, SHOUT, PRAISE EM’, HOOYUH!’ stuff is creepy. I have a Baptist church down the street from me, and it’s a cult. They’re scary. There are tons of Baptist cults (including several infamous ones).
Scientologists:
Don't even get me started. These people are so incredibly stupid. They believe in Xenu, the evil alien guy who committed alien genocide by sending them to Earth, tossing them into a volcano, and then sending them out to torment people. They're the biggest scam ever. They own loads of front companies (including the NEOPETS company). L Ron Hubbard, the creator of this 'religion' said: They best way to make loads of money is to create your own religion.' That gives it all away. He claims his Sci-fi books are real. He was dirty rotten pedophile too.
Moonies:
They're all nuts who think that some Asian guy is the new Messiah.
Satanisim:
These people are stupid. This is the most lazy religion out there.
Mmmyep.
P.S. Evil Kitty: Remember, boy, don't go playin' with muskets again like yer great great grandpappy Hendrix did. Damn near blew yer left ear off when you was a kid, remember that? Went right through yer skull, missin' yer ear by inches! But it's okay: them brain-doctors replaced the left side of yer brain with a beaver brain! Mmmyerrp!
Fine Garbage since 2003.
CURRENT PROJECT:
-Paying off a massive amount of debt in college loans.
-Working in television.
Peblo Custom ratings must be 50 characters or less
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19th December, 2005 at 20:04:31 -
I only know some answers and counter examples to those points, but not all them because
a) I've not been taught enough
b) I'm hardly a representative of the church
I can hardy compete with your points, but I'll stick with my opinions until I can get answers to my questions.
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
There's a strong philosophy (put foward originally by christian philosophers, interestingly) that you need to question your faith in order to truly embrace it. If you ignore criticisms, rather than researching and overcoming them, you aren't a 'real' christian/raelian/brogmoidist/whatever.
@Evil Kitty: Dad! Der be a snow man out threah!
Ma: Oh my Jesus! It gonna git ma boy!
Pa: Don' worry, Villie! I gonna git ma shot gun and blow it ter smitherans!
*click* *BOOM!*
Evil Kitty: You go done kill ma snowman, pappa!
Pa: That'll teach yer, you snow-bastard! Try'n kill ma boy? SALTED NUTS!
Evil Kitty: But I made it, pa!
Pa: It'll turn on yeh, boy! Just like ma grandpappy did back in 1825! He go done ate old Muley! Bleerguh!
Ma: That right, my grandpappy did the same!
Pa: He wer both our grandpappy! Youse ma sister, remember!
Ma: But I also yer mother!
Pa: Yeah, but I'm yer great grand pappy!
Evil Kitty: Why'd have ter be ma snowman!
Ma: If you wasn't my brothur, I'd beat yer!
Pa: FIDDLESTICKS! @
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