Coalition troops, who witnessed the events unfold, explained that moments earlier United States marines had sprayed liquid Viagra down the air-vents of the bunker, and the little prick just popped up!
"Say you're hanging from a huge cliff at the top of mt. everest and a guy comes along and says he'll save you, and proceeds to throw religious pamphlets at you while simultaniously giving a sermon." - Dustin G
They had no right to go to war either, but that didn't stop them
"Say you're hanging from a huge cliff at the top of mt. everest and a guy comes along and says he'll save you, and proceeds to throw religious pamphlets at you while simultaniously giving a sermon." - Dustin G
I kind of feel sorry for him, I mean don't get me wrong he probably deserves a portion of what he's getting, but he's already lost everything. He seems to have aged immensely in the past few months though. We should Napoleanize him (send him off to a desert island).
I dunno, I personally think we are going to be too hard on him, I mean, we already wiped out a good portion of his family. I also think that we are going to be too hard on him because, to america he's the "Ultimate Evil" and we demand spilling his blood to atone for the soldiers killed in the war. We beat him, he knows that, and I think he's now accepting it. But it would be wrong for the US to carry out it's initial plans of public execution.
I think the best punishment would be spending a good christmas even though it would be the first! And then stuff him into a small room for the rest of his life. But now we have to give us a little with some christmas spirit!
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Yep, defending one's country when someone bigger charges in and trys to kill you. I'm not saying he's a saint, far from it. But this shit has got to end somewhere, and I prefer not to piss off all those who already hate my country even more. Because as soon as we get attacked again, we'll be heading for a much, much larger war.
Have we even found any evidence yet? No, and we had none to begin with. It was wrong for us to go in there in the first place. I don't really doubt that he was making those weapons, but if we ever do that to some other country that's bigger than Iraq, there are going to be SERIOUS problems. I'd prefer not to see it in my lifetime.
Giving punishment equal to the crimes, well then Bush and Congress should get Caned (as in bamboo, at least) for every civilian we killed in this war.
Well, we will most likely be going to war with China sometime in the future, or atleast many people think so. It won't be because of Bush or any other president, it will be because both of us need oil, and only so much of it exists.
By the way, the civilians were not "murdered" all of the ones killed were killed by accident. Going by that logic, all the people who accidently kill civilians in wars should get the death penalty? Eh right.......
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Well, remember, a shitload of oil has just been found in Canada, it could very well supply the us for decades, provided everyone doesn't run out and get Suburbans, and Hummers.
And I believe that if someone goes into another country and kills civilians without cause, they should be punished.
And I'd like to thank you Mr. Coffee, you know how to carry on good and intelligent conversations, not many people here do.
To all of you that feel bad for him, STFU. Just think about all of the people that he tortured and slaughtered, their lives were no less important than his. He should be milked for information and then strung up by his balls. BTW, the War on Iraq didn't even have many casualties at all, a lot less than most of the other US war efforts. Saddam was getting away with a lot more than just weapons of mass destruction. Even if there weren't any, he still should have been kicked out for the other things he did.
Yes, he was not a good leader. But he's not the leader anymore, it was the only thing important to him, he's got nothing left now. And personally, I think that living with that humiliation is much worse than death. Cause when you die, that's it, but when you live...you can kick yourself in the ass repeatedly over and over again. Especially if you are alone on a tiny island with noone else around. I'm basically saying that we were wrong for sticking our asses in where they did not belong. But that can't be changed, I just hope the reprocussions (spelt wrong) don't screw us all.
assassinating him would have been a bad idea, the people who would have taken over the country were 10 times as bad as Saddam. Saddam at least knew how to somewhat run a country. His aides (who would have taken over) probably would have just turned Iraq into a huge nuclear war machine. He was the lesser of two evils in George's time.
"over a decade ago we had saddam by his balls, we had the choice to kill him or whatever we wanted, but then good ol' georgie decided "nah, let's just leave" then 10 years later his son is in office and a plane or 2 smashes into large buildings and *ding* a lightbulb goes off in Dubya's head and he plans for Desert Storm part 2"
Are you trying to say Saddam Hussein sponsered Al Queada, or that Wubya just "changed" after September 11th?
I don't believe in public executions, but it's not for me to decide. I have to admit I felt a little sorry for him when I saw him, but then he never had any of my family tortured or executed. Just because he's miserable, doesn't mean he isn't evil. Anyway, Iraq will have a rigged election to decide his fate... but this time...IT WILL BE RIGGED BY AMERICA!!!
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I think they should just hand him over to the Iraqis.
He tortured and oppressed them, so they can decide how
many life sentences to give him.
I found myself feeling sorry for him... but all the appearances of repentance etc. may not be true. He asked for what he is getting anyways.
Kudos to Bush.
Not sure I agree with execution, but I certainly don't feel sorry for him in any way, shape or form. He has murdered literally thousands of his own people, for God's sake.
JD, I think you've over-simplified the (Gulf War 1)situation somewhat.
Afghanistan had nothing directly to do with Saddam/Iraq, the war was to get rid of the Taliban, who were large supporters of Al-Qaeda. Saddam possibly also had links with them.
Assassinating him was difficult because he didn't appear in public for about 2 years.
This is an Example
"I'm afraid of your stupidity, therefore I must kill you."
But when in reality it was like this.
"We think you're stupid, but we're not sure, so we'll kill you anyway."
Well sorry, but I don't think that bomber pilots who accidently bomb civilians should be punished, that makes no sense to me.
Also, it's very easy for us to sit here and say "oh I feel sorry for him" when it's not YOUR family who he has hurt. We should give him to the Iraqis, who will "take care" of him.
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LAY OFF ON BUSH!
He started NOTHING. Bush did not murder thousands
of his own people and hide WOMD with which to bomb an
innocent nation. Iraq has been liberated, and I cant
figure out why you guys think that Bush is a bad guy just
because he destroyed a TERRORIST regime!
The civilians that lost their lives directly
resulting from the war probably had it good
compared to those sent to the torture chambers.
Aid packages, the abolition of secret police and lawless
government is a GOOD THING!
You realize the US has a lot more weapons of mass destruction... but I'm glad it's finally over. He should be executed, it would be unfair for someone who killed thousands of people not to die but for someone who kills only twenty to.
iraq allegedly had loads of links to terror groups so i think one aim was to cut of any funding that may have been going on. Another aim was to make iraq a democratic country.
and saddams regeim did have weapons in the last gulf war but have showed no signs of disposing of any. I think one of the treaties they signed required them to show evidence of it.
I dont think he should be executed, i think they should just throw him in jail and let him die in there, him getting killed now is an easy way out for him. but this way he would suffer .
Rapid Flash is right, US has ALOT more bombs then Iraq.
I say get rid of Bush and re-elect Clinton, so he can sleep with all the women !
I see people who say we are going too hard on him. Bullshit! Over decades he has tortured innocent people. The Iraqis should have a day where every one in the country can go and punch him in the face.
HOSJ... sure Bush didn't do those things... but he's still fucking annoying!
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
I am one of the persons who think someone got something wrong. There is no need to feel sorry for Saddam. He had it coming.
Shab I quote you "Giving punishment equal to the crimes, well then Bush and Congress should get Caned (as in bamboo, at least) for every civilian we killed in this war.", "And I believe that if someone goes into another country and kills civilians without cause, they should be punished.", "No, punish the one's who started it, Congress and bush."
I may be wrong, but you mean something like:" If an innocent civilian dies, the responsible (leader) should be punished". Very interesting concept. Let me see. That means, that because UN decided to enforce sanctions on Iraq more than 10 years that killed thousands of people, especially children, UN should in fact be punished. And because the world let Saddam rule in Iraq killing thousands of innocent civilians we should all be punished?
The last one I can agree on without a question.
Quote Kris "They had no right to go to war either, but that didn't stop them".
Let me make another quote then. "Though shall not kill". What more reason/right do you need? Think about all the lives saved because of the war or is that concept too difficult to grasp? Saddam would have killed many many more in if he had ruled to his death than will ever be killed in a war. The concept of right and wrong cannot always be solved black and white. Sometimes we have to go through light grey/grey before we can reach white.
It's one of those big things that hasn't really hit home in my mind yet. But, when you think of it, he's just one guy who lead and made decisions, but I think his influence will more than likely live on and I believe Iraq will see the bad end of the stick as far as living conditions go with or without him there.
Sure it's a relief for alot of people, but capturing or killing the old man ain't gonna solve any solutions as far as changing Iraq.
It will still be a number of years before we see the place get back on it's proverbial feet. I mean, for pretty much all of it's people, they will not be use to this freedom. It's something foreign, and almost scary to them.
Catching Saddam is the start of a long stressful journey of recovery and change for the Iraqi's I feel.
Infact, we should let them decide what they want to do with their old dictator.
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The reason the US dare not kill him is that if he's killed by the enemy, he will become a martyr, and that will just serve to fuel enemy resistance in Iraq.
The whole point of this war was supposedly to free th Iraqis from a dictator. Now they're freed, what to do with him is their decision. America doesn't come into the equation any more.
Just to point out that although America does indeed have far more weapons than Iraq ever did (or the rest of the world for that matter), there was no UN resolution ordering them to disarm immediately, as was the case with Saddam's Iraq.
I agree with Cybermaze, the route of war is obviously a terrible one, but in the long term it will have been a positive thing for the general public in Iraq.
So your saying war is good Jon? Cause you say the good things in life...sex, drugs, rock and roll...are bad...but they arn't so by my way of thinking...I just think the opposite of everything you say
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Somehow, I doubt they actually caught him. Remember the time when Usama bin Laden was supposedly killed? Or when Saddam was killed the first few times?
For all we know, they just caught a guy who looked like Saddam. I mean, most people would just recognize him as a fat dark guy with a really thick moustache. There are lots of people who look like that and many would risk their lives for Saddam.
BTW, Saddam was a nice guy. He oppressed his people and made chemical & biological weapons and made a few palaces for himself, but he was the nicest dictator that ever lived. Same goes for his kids. For that, I feel sorry for him.
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Just because you're nice it doesn't mean you can't be evil. Saddam was a nice guy. He made practical jokes. He and his kids brought joy to the country. It was just his bad idea of starting the Gulf War and his greed that spoiled everything. If it wasn't for the sanctions, the US would be picking a fight with other countries.
Damn you, JonWoG. You've tempted me to write a long post about the Asian perspective on this war on terrorism. But fortunately for you, I just don't have the time.
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I wouldn't like to be Saddam this moment. Although I THINK I wouldn't put myself in a situation like this.
and by the way, have you ever heard of "den som är utan synd får kasta den första stenen"? Well, maybe not. But this is the swedish translation of what Jesus said to the woman which was judged for crime against marriage. It meens that you can't judge Saddam to be bad as humsn, because you all have act wrong sometimes in your lives, if you are concios about it or not. America isn't "The Most Innocent Super Power Through Time".
I also just want to say that we should be concios about the fact that the natu´re created human, and not vice versa.
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
To whoever responded to my comment about punishing leaders.
The UN is pretty much useless, our little unsanctioned war proved this, they just let us go in and do what we wanted. But as this topic is long over, this whole thing reminds me of a gundam storyline, kinda.
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