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25th June, 2009 at 23:50:57 -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8119951.stm

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25th June, 2009 at 23:54:54 -

I've seen enough of this on facebook: yes he's died, he's massively loved, talented and will be missed by many, including myself.

 
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I had just gone downstairs to tell my mum I read he had died on the internet only for the news to confirm it right there and then. Just when he was working towards a comeback too.

 
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Roughly 100 people die a mintue. Yet they're not famous enough to a R.I.P.

Yes I'm sad he is dead. I'm not being a dick, I just hate how everyone is all "MJ" this and that. Bloody media domination in today's soiciety.

It's a shame that he's passed on, because I've been fan of his works for a while now, but I'm just teed off with the over-reaction.

I'm ill, I'm allowed to be cranky.

Another thing that gunna bug me about this death is
a) MJ jokes. Seriously...its gunna get old so so so quick.
b) This whole hoo hah about "OMGZ BUT HE TOUCHES CHILDREN"

Right, if he did or didn't do the crimes, ISNT THE PROBLEM! He was a good music artist noneoftheless.

Urgh, I know no-ones said it here because we are all normal thinking people, but seriously the amount of dim-wits on facebook it's driving me potty.

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I sometimes watch a video or two of his on youtube and his fans are just insane. I'm sure a lot of people are pretty shocked about this right now.

 
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26th June, 2009 at 00:19:16 -

Holy shit, no fucking way !
Ok he could be a child abuser and whatever people called him, but he was an icon. A dead one now.

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26th June, 2009 at 00:39:22 -

why is everyone sad? michael jackson the man was a whackjob. we'll always have his music. get over it. move on.

 
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26th June, 2009 at 00:41:56 -

Because to me at least, his music was the soundtrack to my childhood. Before I liked music I liked Amiga music. Before I liked Amiga music I liked Michael Jackson. He had millions of adoring fans, was a real character (how many of them do we have now?), and all that.

 
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I have the facebook toolbar on my Firefox, and everytime the news changed their mind about his condition the right hand side of my screen got flooded with pop ups of people's status changes >__>

 
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i guess i'll chime in here seeing as i'm a muso and all .... hmmm yeah.

 
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Originally Posted by MrPineapple
i guess i'll chime in here seeing as i'm a muso and all .... hmmm yeah.



I can see you're really torn up...

 
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26th June, 2009 at 01:11:03 -

well i would say more but theres not much that hasnt been said... facebook idiots: yeah, good music: yeah ... bad timing: very yeah

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26th June, 2009 at 01:26:37 -

Nothing on Facebook but Michael Jackson comments. Good grief, I know he was popular but why is he still respected?

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26th June, 2009 at 01:27:38 -

Farrah Fawcett died too. Just saying.

 
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I fail to understand the whole modern celebrity culture where you can become famous by simply appearing on tv. But Michael Jackson was in a totally different league. I guess it's a shame simply because he was so damn talented and seemed like such a loving guy. He got a really rough ride in recent years over something that may or may not have happened.

 
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Originally Posted by AndyUK
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26th June, 2009 at 01:38:54 -

Kinda annoys me how many people say Michael Jackson was their childhood, it seems to be a trend all of a sudden. About 5 people said it on the news already, and to be honest yes he was more active during my childhood, but I listened to other artists just as much, even though I do love his music. I didn't have posters, pencil cases or t-shirts, like the "real" Michael Jackson fans who pay thousands to follow him around the world

 
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I used to have a Michael Jackson scarf.

 
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I have a lil gold statue of him somewhere and a bunny mask (in the film Moonwalker). Ha ha ha. Might sell them on ebay considering the current time...mmm might be a bit mean.

edit: Actually I'll need to find them first...

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26th June, 2009 at 03:29:38 -

http://www.michaeljackson.com/ expresses deep sadness and sorrow at the unexpected passing of Michael Jackson and extends wishes of sympathy and condolences to all of Michael's family, friends and fans around the world.

 
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R.I.P. dude, if you can.

 

  		
  		

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26th June, 2009 at 05:01:03 -

I agree, regardless of his crazy antics it's really his music that people should have focused on.
I bet there will be a few crazed fan suicides.

 
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oh right way to go. post this one in " General Chat
General chat about, games, computers, click, and the internet" instead of " Misc Chat
Talk about anything and everything in here, but try to keep things normal "

also moan this isnt a forum if we dont talk about this yet you dont know how to use a forum. also way to go: give your thread name a super giant title so nobody will see it.

back to the topic: *sob* *sob*

also you know i love you james so dont take it personal. i just wanted to act a little forum nazi like for the luls.

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26th June, 2009 at 11:53:35 -

Awfully tragic. R.I.P Michael Jackson.

 
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"i just wanted to act a little forum nazi like for the luls."

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26th June, 2009 at 13:59:22 -

He touched many people in many ways.

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You don't need to act.



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26th June, 2009 at 20:25:50 -

They actually added a "did you hear Michael Jackson's died?" scene to tonight's Eastenders (obviously filmed this morning), and were playing his music in the background of the Queen Victoria pub

 
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Until about 2 months ago I thought he was the most overated artist of all time, then I started reading some stuff about him and his musical career, watching several videos and listening to some of his best known albums, and all that made me realize that even though my musical taste has nothing to do with his type of music, the guy truly was a great artist.

Oh and it's worth mentioning that I was named after him (my real name is mike btw)

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Self-proclaimed king of pop and all that, but really you have to understand it's sort of the truth considering how good some of his music was and how much influence he had on a lot of people. You just don't see it so much, all you see is MIKAERL JACKSUN RAPES CHILDRENZ or HE PUT HIS BABEE OUT OF A WEENDOW or some other sort of media controversy.

 
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27th June, 2009 at 02:52:28 -

When I was little I was freaked out by the guy, and before I heard his music I wanted him to be dead, 'cuz one night I had a nightmare about him. But now that he really is dead, I feel sad. I love to play Beat IT on Guitar Hero, and the Thriller music video was amazing for what they had in those times.

EDIT: R.I.P. Michael Jackson - You don't miss something 'til it's gone.

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I said a while ago that MJ would be a legend if he died early, like Elvis, Freddy Mercury, Jimi Hendrix, or Kurt Cobain. Was horrible seeing all the stuff that happened to him after he dropped out of the spotlight. Even worse that he died shortly before trying to get back in the spotlight again.

 
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Maybe he's just pulling a 3DRealms on us and isn't really dead. I hope. ;<

 
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Hmm, quite sad really. Always disliked the guy personally, what with all the paedo-accusations and all, but he was a genuinly lengendary artist. Most musical acts these days get too big too quickly (atleast in their own minds!) and disappear after 2-3 albums. Jacko is up there with Elvis, Hendrix, Lennon etc now

 
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I've had Thriller stuck in my head for three days now. I must admit it is a very catchy tune.

 

  		
  		

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Someone asked me what my favourite MJ song was the other day. It was really tough because I like so many of his songs.
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I'm sad because I wanted him to make more songs. So sick of most the crap they put out these days. Now I'll never get to hear any of the new stuff he would have made.
I've always focused on his music only. It's not healthy to idolize anything, not even God. In the Bible it states that one should not pray to images because it is God who is to be worshiped and not the image of God. It also states that God is the only one to worship. Alot of the Christian-variety religions actually disobey these btw. After that whole media frenzy about child touching or whatever they claimed he did, you were pretty much ridiculed if you said he or his music was cool though.
You guys do realise that he was indeed the King of Pop right? ... He made the music style popular and even invented the dance style.
Everyone that followed within those stylings just emulated him in some form or another. There wasn't anything like it until Michael came along. My dad says he doesn't like him and makes fun an' all, but he's listened to his music and liked it without ever knowing that "Michael Jackson" sang it.

I just feel sorry for him and his family. If he did do the disturbing things they claim, then I hope he finds forgiveness and redemption in the afterlife from the children and from God. He was not a well individual you know. Time does not work the same way in the afterlife as it does in this world, meaning they could be there talking to eachother right now. Ghosts are what happens when one becomes trapped between this world and the next. Perhaps he is in the ghost realm with unfinished business an' all.

Let's get serious though, he's not really dead, I seen him at the mall the other day.

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On the thought of ghosts having unfinished business, have you seen Ghost Town with Ricky Gervais? (sp)

 
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Originally Posted by MBK
I'm sad because I wanted him to make more songs. So sick of most the crap they put out these days. Now I'll never get to hear any of the new stuff he would have made.
I've always focused on his music only. It's not healthy to idolize anything, not even God. In the Bible it states that one should not pray to images because it is God who is to be worshiped and not the image of God. It also states that God is the only one to worship. Alot of the Christian-variety religions actually disobey these btw. After that whole media frenzy about child touching or whatever they claimed he did, you were pretty much ridiculed if you said he or his music was cool though.
You guys do realise that he was indeed the King of Pop right? ... He made the music style popular and even invented the dance style.
Everyone that followed within those stylings just emulated him in some form or another. There wasn't anything like it until Michael came along. My dad says he doesn't like him and makes fun an' all, but he's listened to his music and liked it without ever knowing that "Michael Jackson" sang it.

I just feel sorry for him and his family. If he did do the disturbing things they claim, then I hope he finds forgiveness and redemption in the afterlife from the children and from God. He was not a well individual you know. Time does not work the same way in the afterlife as it does in this world, meaning they could be there talking to eachother right now. Ghosts are what happens when one becomes trapped between this world and the next. Perhaps he is in the ghost realm with unfinished business an' all.

Let's get serious though, he's not really dead, I seen him at the mall the other day.

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Originally Posted by jthongbai
On the thought of ghosts having unfinished business, have you seen Ghost Town with Ricky Gervais? (sp)


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Originally Posted by Dr. James
Because to me at least, his music was the soundtrack to my childhood. Before I liked music I liked Amiga music. Before I liked Amiga music I liked Michael Jackson. He had millions of adoring fans, was a real character (how many of them do we have now?), and all that.



Same story for me there. His music reached everyone.

But you know, I was out in town yesterday and I saw people wearing MJ T-shirts - before he died nobody around here would dare admit liking his music as they would probably be spat at or beaten up - why does it take a death for it to be "safe" now???
And radio DJ's that wouldnt touch his work for similar reasons but now play it all day and all night..

It's also odd the way people feel this repulsive need to put a boot in on the internet - such as in online games or forums like this/fb - making MJ "jokes" or kill macro's and racist comments about him on YouTube clips.. really.
Is it really necessary?



 
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I've never seen Ghost Town and I am not religious. I'm just philosophically endowed and believe in "God" and a higher purpose which perhaps may never be fully understood by mankind. I do not believe in religions however, as they are a huge part of what is wrong with the world. This may sound hypocritical, but if you truly understand what I mean, then you will know that it is not at all so.
Arguments over details of that which can never be fully known until you are dead leads to foul attitudes towards eachother and even war.

@alastair john jack: That's not healthy. Michaels' music was great as was his dance, but to say that there is nothing else worth living for is just wrong. Yes there will never be another 'Michael Jackson' and he can never be replaced, but there have been many others who have died and there will be many more who will die that also can never be replaced, both celebrity and non-celebrity. I'm going to miss him and his style and I truly wish that he would have made some more songs before leaving this world, but he is gone and life goes on. He was a hero in the hearts of many, but he was just as human as anyone else is. (that's if you're serious)

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Originally Posted by steve
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But you know, I was out in town yesterday and I saw people wearing MJ T-shirts - before he died nobody around here would dare admit liking his music as they would probably be spat at or beaten up - why does it take a death for it to be "safe" now???
And radio DJ's that wouldnt touch his work for similar reasons but now play it all day and all night..




I think a lot of people who hated him just did so to be cool. I know a LOT of people who would make fun of Wacko Jacko all the time, but have his albums all the same. And these people are the same ones who actually cry and say that he was their childhood. I think all this is TV and radio coverage is the guilt factor more than anything.

 
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I wonder if there'll be many Jacko-tribute people sprouting up over the next 30 years, like Elvis? I doubt it'll be anywhere near as many, but it'll be interesting to see.

 
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Loved his music, r.i.p. MJ

 
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I don't particularly have anything against Michael Jackson, but I guess I just hate the media/celebrity hype more than anything. This is going a bit off topic, but I absolutely loath tv shows or magazines that get unnecessarily over-involved in all the "goss" and tales of today's celebrities. Now don't get me wrong, Michael Jackson dying is a pretty big story and reporters, whether they care about it or not, are going to milk it dry. In my opinion however, there is a limit, which gets me back to the tabloid goss; if I like a celebrity because of their music or acting or whatever they supply to me, then that's what I like about them. What they do in their spare time is of absolutely no concern to me, and I can't see any good reasons as to why it should be.

Sure, I'm sad that Michael Jackson's dead, but no more than I would be if my Uncle's Step-Cousin or the stranger across the street had died. To be honest, I'm actually sick of hearing about it now. As you might of guessed, I do enjoy his music but I'm not that much of a serious fan. It's people like me though that are saying "You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone." because they suddenly think MJ was the best thing since sliced bread, but to me personally, I knew exactly what I had, and I still do. I had a talented dancer/choreographer who wrote some good songs, made some (in my opinion) bad choices, and now sleeps happily. When I first heard the news, I was surprised, I thought about it for a bit and realised I never really looked into Michael Jackson that much; I didn't really take the time to appreciate his music and it made me feel like I'd lost some kind of opportunity. But I thought about it some more and realised that it shouldn't really be a big deal to me at all, so I left it at that and went on with my day.

I really don't understand why ordinary people get so involved in situations like this, so I'm asking this question completely non-rhetorically: Why should I care if Michael Jackson Died?

I can think of a few choice answers like: "Because he was an awesome talented ultra-famous musician and now he's gone forever"

and: "Because he changed pop culture forever, he is an icon, now up there with Elvis and the like"

But here's my contradiction; these answers don't generally mean that I have to care at all, they are merely opinions.

Which brings me to my next discussion, (post is getting a bit long, I know), but one thing that really sticks with me is this: People are only as famous as other people want them to be. No one chooses to be famous, it is in complete control of everyone EXCEPT you whether you are famous or not. Anyone can be talented at anything, and whether or not you choose to be SIGNIFICANTLY interested someone else's talent, it is your decision. Imagine if all of a sudden, everyone in the world lost all interest in... Justin Timberlake for example. His records stop selling, people recognise him less and less, and he is generally ignored by anyone he is not in immediate contact with. He has just become a "nobody", and it was the combined decisions of the population of the world that caused this to happen. However, they don't dislike him, and at the same time they don't like him; they have no opinion one way or the other. Now take it back to today's perspective. There are celebrities out there, who aren't particularly that talented, and yet other people decide that they are famous or loved by a wide population. Then there are the celebrities who are generally talented, and I think the problem with this is that some fans of those celebrities are particularly over-reactive about these people; I'm sure there are some people out there now who would be more upset about Michael Jackon's death than that of their own family member's. And lastly, there are the 'celebrities' that may or may not be talented, but aren't nearly as famous. When does a person reach a certain level of fame anyway? Is there a specific point where, when someone is noticed by one more member of the general public, that they become famous? Some people think of "famous" and "infamous" to be opposites, but in fact they almost mean the same thing. If fame is the amount of recognition (good or bad) that you recieve from a significant number of people, then what really makes you any different to them?

Anyway, that's enough for now. I've been wanting to express some of this stuff a bit recently, so thanks to James for starting this post I guess. I don't really care if you agree or disagree with any of this, but thanks for reading my rant and I hope you learned something from it!

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I wonder if there'll be many Jacko-tribute people sprouting up over the next 30 years, like Elvis? I doubt it'll be anywhere near as many, but it'll be interesting to see.



...There already has been for the past 20 or so years?

 
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You can always turn off the TV if you don't like it. Seriously, that's what I do. Once ratings start dropping they'll learn that people are getting sick of it. It's all lazy journalism anyway, first all that hype about swine flu, then the MJ thing. So lazy.

Lol, the irony is that Michael Jackson keeps getting the headline news when he doesn't want to.

 
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Originally Posted by -Adam-

Originally Posted by Mark Radon
I wonder if there'll be many Jacko-tribute people sprouting up over the next 30 years, like Elvis? I doubt it'll be anywhere near as many, but it'll be interesting to see.



...There already has been for the past 20 or so years?


Not round where i've been in my life-time there hasn't. What i was getting at is will they suddenly appear all over the place, like Elvis ones do? In Tenbury Wells, where i live, there is a poster advertising Elvis tribute acts, yet the population of this town is approx 5,000 - not bad for a small town. Yet there's never been Jacko tributes anywhere rounds here, or in Hereford where i grew up.

 
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Originally Posted by Muz
You can always turn off the TV if you don't like it. Seriously, that's what I do. Once ratings start dropping they'll learn that people are getting sick of it. It's all lazy journalism anyway, first all that hype about swine flu, then the MJ thing. So lazy.

Lol, the irony is that Michael Jackson keeps getting the headline news when he doesn't want to.


I turn it all off now coz i'm getting bored with hearing about it. The latest tabloid-trash going around is about his autopsy; about him being nearly bald, wearing a wig, being like 8 stone, scars over his face from the operations etc etc. Now all the 'shock' has passed, i remember why i didn't have much time for Jacko and it makes me wonder why i care - all the sleeping with kids and stuff. Hmmm....

 
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Originally Posted by Mark Radon

Originally Posted by -Adam-

Originally Posted by Mark Radon
I wonder if there'll be many Jacko-tribute people sprouting up over the next 30 years, like Elvis? I doubt it'll be anywhere near as many, but it'll be interesting to see.



...There already has been for the past 20 or so years?


Not round where i've been in my life-time there hasn't. What i was getting at is will they suddenly appear all over the place, like Elvis ones do? In Tenbury Wells, where i live, there is a poster advertising Elvis tribute acts, yet the population of this town is approx 5,000 - not bad for a small town. Yet there's never been Jacko tributes anywhere rounds here, or in Hereford where i grew up.



Ive never ever seen an Elvis impersonator near me, yet that doesn't mean they don't exist

 
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I didn't say they didn't exist

 
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